Ticket #579 (new enhancement)

Opened 6 years ago

Last modified 4 years ago

Name for BAR

Reported by: beherith Owned by:
Priority: blocker Milestone:
Component: BAR Version:
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Description (last modified by beherith) (diff)

My order of preference is:

  1. Brutal Annihilation
  2. Beyond All Reason : Balanced Annihilation Reloaded
  3. Big Angry Robots

Whats yours?

Change History

comment:1 Changed 6 years ago by beherith

  • Description modified (diff)

comment:2 Changed 6 years ago by Bluestone

Of those I like "Beyond All Reason" best, not a fan of violent sounding names (beacuse imo its attractions are 1. teamwork/social 2. growing a base 3. fighting 4. pretty gfx; and only one of those is violent). But I never really played computer games, except Spring, so I suspect I'm not a helpful opinion...

comment:3 Changed 6 years ago by Funkencool

  1. Beyond All Reason : Balanced Annihilation Reloaded
  2. Brutal Annihilation
  3. Big Angry Robots

I think 'Beyond All Reason' sparks my imagination the most. The game could still stick with TA lore but it also leaves room for something different. Plus BAR

With 'Brutal Annihilation' you're basically stuck with that universe. Plus BA might have trouble attracting people who have already heard of BA.

'Big Angry Robots' is fun if there is no story, just multiplayer mayhem.

comment:4 Changed 6 years ago by Floris

I guess general consensus seems to be "Beyond All Reason". And I like that.

I dislike "Brutal Annihilation" , too brutal, too annihilation. "Big Angry Robots" sounds too cute and generic.

"Beyond all reason", sounds a bit mysterious, yet also is perfectly clear. It has class. (and roots)

Last edited 6 years ago by Floris (previous) (diff)

comment:5 Changed 6 years ago by Floris

Can we make it official any time soon?

Also I think It would be really really neat if the Logo/name is designed/modelled as ingame unit. So it has character that fits and can be used in the loadscreen and other applications.

comment:6 Changed 6 years ago by Bluestone

Imo a name shouldn't be announced until we are near to a full release - I don't see anything to gain by fixing it.

comment:7 follow-up: ↓ 8 Changed 6 years ago by Funkencool

Although it would be nice to have a name for anyone that wants to work on the art side of things. So it doesn't necessarily have to be announced but having it would be nice.

comment:8 in reply to: ↑ 7 ; follow-up: ↓ 10 Changed 5 years ago by Sereiya

Replying to Funkencool:

Although it would be nice to have a name for anyone that wants to work on the art side of things. So it doesn't necessarily have to be announced but having it would be nice.

I actually want to start on that, so an official Name would be awesome. Is "Beyond all Reason" actually kind of a joke..? Sounds to me like you've no idea why the f*ck you're working on this game. ;)

comment:9 Changed 5 years ago by Bluestone

Sereiya: if you want to start on it, for now the best thing to do is make screenshots without any text at all on them, with the idea of using them as (the background of) loadscreens.

If you want to design possible signature title images for the loadscreens (in similar style to the current text on the BA loadscreens), please do that separately. For now you should use "Beyond All Reason" as the main title text, with "Balanced Annihilation: Reloaded" as a smaller subtitle.

But we'd be very grateful for work on both!

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comment:10 in reply to: ↑ 8 Changed 5 years ago by beherith

Replying to Sereiya:

Replying to Funkencool:

Although it would be nice to have a name for anyone that wants to work on the art side of things. So it doesn't necessarily have to be announced but having it would be nice.

I actually want to start on that, so an official Name would be awesome. Is "Beyond all Reason" actually kind of a joke..? Sounds to me like you've no idea why the f*ck you're working on this game. ;)

Yeah, sometimes I wonder too, then I notice that something needs doing and I start thinking about it. My whole approach can be summed as 'well one thing lead to another...'

comment:11 Changed 5 years ago by anonymous

Behemoths Armed Robots

comment:12 Changed 5 years ago by abma

loadscreens don't need a text at all. you can add the text via luaintro...

comment:13 Changed 5 years ago by Bluestone

comment:14 Changed 5 years ago by Jazcash

Is there any major reason why the name has to stick with the BAR acronym? I understand that it may be a bit awkward to change all the references to it, but that seems like a bad reason to force a BAR name.

"Beyond All Reason" doesn't convey any sort of information that makes people remember the game, it's just a phrase. Think of people playing this game once, then a year later they see the name written in an article, or a friend mentions the name. Personally, I know I'd have no clue which game the title belongs to out of the hundreds of games I've played.

"Big Angry Robots" is my favourite. It's memorable, light and slightly humorous. However, my gripe is that the game itself isn't that kind of game, it's TA - A supposedly serious kind of war game. Therefore, I don't think this name is appropriate either.

These are the best two I've seen amongst all the BAR acronym suggestions, and frankly, they're not that great. Locking into only BAR acronyms is gonna leave you guys with a "meh" title for this game, and if all it takes it changing references in places with a couple "Find in Files" commands, then I think you should expand suggestions to anything and not just BAR acronyms.

Just my two cents.

comment:15 Changed 5 years ago by tzaeru@…

I have to admit that I don't find particular fancy to the presented names. They're either too forgettable or too light-hearted.

Is there some kind of BAR mythos/story designed or going to be designed, or is it just going to be a bunch of loose, non-infringing references to OTA lore? The best choice of name sparks not only imagination in general, but gives a nudge towards what the game actually is about. So what do we have? Well, we've space.. We've mech-like robots.. We've more traditional, tank-type robots. If we stick with OTA-like background, then we've a dystopia and clones vs AIs. We've a strategy game, that presents two factions that fight endlessly for futile domination of the galaxy.

Total Domination? ..No. Ooh! SpaceCraft?! ..Yeah no. Galactic Conquest? Maybe not. Yes, coming up with a good name is hard, but I still feel that the currently proposed ones do not accurately describe BAR and don't stick in one's head well. Regardless, if a choice had to be made from them, then "Beyond All Reason" stands supreme.

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comment:16 Changed 5 years ago by Jazcash

What about a single word that represents something about the game, like Conflict, Struggle, Contention or Onslaught or something? Or just 'War'? :D

Last edited 5 years ago by Jazcash (previous) (diff)

comment:17 Changed 5 years ago by tzaeru

By 'War', do you refer to the Swedish black metal band or to the legendary 70s/80s American funk band?

Kidding aside, the problem with one-word names is that if they are a general, often used word, search engine results will dilute and so many of those names are already reserved.

Though if someone came up with a good, imaginative one-word name, I could support it.

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comment:18 Changed 5 years ago by Jazcash

"Conflict" for example, only lists dictionary results when Googled, which should put any game named as such in good stead, especially if a domain such as conflict.com was registered.

How about Comflict? :D Maybe a bit too punny... hard to tell. But yeah, I agree that there could be problems with general, english-language, single words. Maybe if there was a more in-depth lore write-up to the game it would be easier to come up with a fitting name, but deciding on a name before any of the lore is even decided is making it quite difficult.

comment:19 Changed 4 years ago by PicassoCT@…

Names should start with A or Z.. nobody remembers anything except the start or end of a speach..

Aged Battle Robots is superior to BAR cause it is on top of every alphabetical sorted list

comment:20 Changed 4 years ago by Bluestone

  • Milestone BAR Beta release deleted
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